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Tue Mar 19 22:15:36 PST 2002


At 12:32 AM 3/20/02 -0500, Michael Pollak wrote:
>and if it were extremely easy; and if such people
>asked rather than demanded; then I might have thought differently.
>
>Michael

it's misrepresenations like this that are most troubling. after months of defending doug's right to do as he wish and ward of any discussion of munging addresses, this what i get from doug and from you. doug insults me and the faggot from texas of valuing bour privacy. this is what i've typed in the past, this is just how bullying i've been about it:

neither budge nor i wanted to force doug to do anything. i never expected anything to change, as evidenced by one post that i purposefully use to google archive a message to my kid when he grows up and discovers the archive.

we did want an actual discussion and some reasons why he actually refused to do something trivially easy. we wanted to understand why he rejected a simple solution. that's what was at issue. i saw some really irrational behavior on his part given what you've just figured out and that was a refusal to even discuss it and provide real reasons other than a NO.

below is what i've written in the past, only to get accused of desiring to protect my bourg privacy. i work for the biggest banks in the country. i had very real concerns if someone connected my alias on this list to anything else i do professionally. budge also has concerns, he's a faggot that lives in texas. it was just too insulting for words.


>At 10:05 AM 9/6/01 -0700, joanna bujes wrote:
>
>>So, is this possible? Blanking out the email adress for the web archive?

yes! i'd asked doug about scripting the archives so they wouldn't come up on google searches, but it seems a shame to keep such a resource from public view, since it is very useful to others and is a way of advertising the list and the newsletter. i'd forgotten about this option, but it's what they do at many archives now. http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/0109/0304.html

follow the thread and read doug insult me by suggesting i hadn't a klew as to what i was talking about and tell me that i'd never get hired by sun because i didn't attend an ivy league! and, even after that, i didn't raise a ruckus. when justin raised a fuss about his posts in the archives, i typed:

"since doug won't make the archives list member only (for good reasons, since this place is a brain trust for google searches on lefty topics and doug (mainly, but "we" also) made that happen. it's a lot of hard work to create and run a list.), my advice is that you should not go by your real full name. i (and doug and gary norris) have had to deal with a weirdo net loon, so i've taken steps to use two different names. no one here knows my real last name, for instance, tho some may guess and any proficient searcher will discover it, eventually, or figure out the possibilities."

(From: Kelley Subject: Protecting Your Privacy Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:39:25 -0500)



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