So, two serious questions: (1) On 9/10, did you favor a war to remove the Taliban from power in Afghanistan? If not, why not? (2) Are you serious enough about war as a means of destroying al-Qaeda to extend the war to Pakistan? If not, what other means to you propose?
As far as the Nazi analogy goes, fighting Afghanistan while allying with Pakistan is like allying with Nazi Germany to remove the Iron Guard in Rumania. Would it be glib to note that fighting Rumania is NOT fighting fascism at its source?
Michael McIntyre
>>> dperrin at comcast.net 05/04/02 09:40 AM >>>
Michael McIntyre:
> Let's make it plain. Pakistan is the patron and sponsor of both Taliban
and al-Qaeda. If you're serious about going after the source of he terror,
then you take on Pakistan, you don't make it your ally in the fight against
terror. The principal target of al-Qaeda and its associated organizations
is not the United States, but India. After our war started, just to show
they were still in business, two of these organizations, Jaish-e-Mohamed and
Lashkar-e-Taiba, mounted two terrorist attacks on India: an Oklahoma City
style bombing on the state legislative building in Srinagar, and an armed
assault on the parliament building in New Delhi.
I totally agree with you. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are accessories, and I think that Bush and co. have been confused on the former and soft on the latter (though hostility to the Saudi throne is growing in DC). Taking on the likes of al-Qaeda will not be an easy nor simple, straightforward task, and one must resist all manner of propaganda and rhetoric on all sides. But the US is certainly a target, and I've no doubt will be again (though I hope not). Still, the US response sent the Taliban to the hills and scattered, for the time being, al-Qaeda. Its operatives are not strutting about in Afghanistan, terrorizing the locals, but are in hiding. That is a positive thing. And, yes, removing the Taliban was the first and necessary step in this process, as they were state sponsors of al-Qaeda's violence. Going after those in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia will be much tougher, but it needn't all be through military means.
As I've said before, instead of simply chanting "No War," the "left" should have seen that al-Qaeda and the Taliban are not the Vietnamese or the Sandinistas, considered them a mortal enemy, not only to progressive Western values but to millions in the region, supported hitting them back, but in concert with pressuring the US to alter its relations with the Arab world and especially with Israel. This, I believe, would have paid huge dividends, and would have placed the "left" in a unique position to advance the arguments that need to be advanced. Instead we have ired, 60s-era chants, and Stalinist groups taking the lead in organizing "resistance" to the overthrow of the Taliban. This is quite sad.
Again, would you be so glib if we were talking about the Nazis? The US at the time did little to prevent their rise in Germany (indeed, many businesses helped feed their power), was silent about the death camps, and at home oversaw its own version of anti-Semitism and deep racism, and had a recent history of violent intervention in Central America. Yet, the left of that period had little trouble seeing the greater threat, and saw it early, before the tanks rolled. When the US finally did battle, I don't recall reading about the left clearing its throat, saying, "Yes, well, umm, what about slavery? What about the Indians?"
DP