Socialist Planning -- Liberation from the Market

Justin Schwartz jkschw at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 18 19:13:46 PDT 2002


Maybe Doug was worried about the way the market socialist debate plays out on the list. As the local market socialist--I want to spread socialist ideas too, but I think that in their place markets are not only necessary but good--I find it frustraing too. jks


>From: "windy storm" <windystormings at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>Subject: Re: Socialist Planning -- Liberation from the Market
>Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:29:24 +0000
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>Hi Doug!
>I'm new to your list. So perhaps there were ruled I did not know.
>I thought Lotta's piece on Socialist planning was a wonderful contribution
>to leftist debate on alternative societies.
>
>As for context: Doesn't this go deep into issues debated around us? The
>idea that socialism has proven impossible? That planning doesn't work, and
>that the best we can hope for is some loosely directed market system of
>capitalism?
>
>I'm a little confused about your "start debate or end it" question -- but
>let me just answer as best I can: I think this debate over socialism,
>markets and planning is ongoing -- it has started and is raging pretty much
>everywhere, including on your great IBO list, but also lots of other
>places. I want to continue that debate, but I also want to see socialist
>ideas content in that debate and win over more people.
>
>Lotta's piece originally appeared in another left discussion site
>(http://2changetheworld.info) where it certainly spurred a lot of debate
>(and also spurred *my* interest -- leading me to study a lot more seriously
>the different real world experiences with socialist planning in the last
>century.)
>
>Thanks for all your work, Doug, and for creating such a great space for
>left and socialist discussion! I Looking forward to learning from everyone
>here.
>
>Windy
>
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>>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
>>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>>Subject: Re: Socialist Planning -- Liberation from the Market
>>Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:33:34 -0400
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>>windy storm wrote:
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>>>Socialist Planning -- Liberation from the Market
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>>That's all very nice, but why join a list and post a long screed from a
>>sectarian party to a list, with no context at all? Is this supposed to
>>start a conversation or end one?
>>
>>Doug
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