<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080>with all respect, carrol, i've been there, too.   there's no way to describe the utter sense of hopelessness and futility; the inability to escape the feeling and one's tormented self.   </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080>i've also worked as a psychotherapist with depressed, et al, people.  the note has a kind of intrinsic logic.  yet, without knowing the man, i'd be unable to definitively say he was depressed.   and from his actions, and the reports of his friends and relatives, up to the time of his death, i'd be hard put to find this note anything more than an artful forgery at best.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080>also, not as many depressives as people might think leave notes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia color=#000080>R</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cbcox@ilstu.edu href="mailto:cbcox@ilstu.edu">Carrol Cox</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lbo-talk@lists.panix.com href="mailto:lbo-talk@lists.panix.com">lbo-talk@lists.panix.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:02 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Enron suicide note disclosed</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Carl Remick wrote:<BR>> <BR>> Here it is, Enron ex-vice-chairman J. Clifford Baxter suicide note,<BR>> addressed to his wife:<BR>> <BR>> "I am so sorry for this. I feel I just can't go on. I have always tried to<BR>> do the right thing, but where there was once great pride, now it's gone. I<BR>> love you and the children so much. I just can't be any good to you or<BR>> myself. The pain is overwhelming. Please try to forgive me. Cliff."<BR>> <BR><BR>An overwhelming number of suicides, whatever their immediate occasion,<BR>have clinical depression as their general context. And what all<BR>sufferers from depression will tell you is that we can't describe the<BR>pain. It is a pain that will not be ignored. Doesn't help much, does it?<BR>It's the best I've ever been able to do when describing depression to<BR>those who have never experience it. And extreme depression also feels as<BR>though someone had poured Karo syrup over your brain. You lose your<BR>powers of articulation. Can you imgagine me being inarticulate? I have<BR>been. Utterly incapable of making even a mildly complicated point. I<BR>couldn't have written a less "fake" note on such an occasion. And fear<BR>of bringing pain to relatives, friends, etc. is one of _the_ major<BR>barriers to suicide. Of course he would ask for forgiveness, knowing it<BR>would not be given.<BR><BR>That note rings wholly true to me.<BR><BR>Carrol<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>