<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=#000080>the betrayal of southern blacks by the communist party, after years of exploiting the black cause to advance itself, still rankles.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080>R</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=laflame@aaahawk.com href="mailto:laflame@aaahawk.com">pms</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lbo-talk@lists.panix.com href="mailto:lbo-talk@lists.panix.com">lbo-talk@lists.panix.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:59 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Determinism</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Didn't the Jews face a lot of persecution because of socialist elements?<BR>I'm not arguing here 'cause I have no clue.  This is just on of my long-time<BR>assumptions based on vague impressions.<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Justin Schwartz <<A href="mailto:jkschw@hotmail.com">jkschw@hotmail.com</A>><BR>To: <<A href="mailto:lbo-talk@lists.panix.com">lbo-talk@lists.panix.com</A>><BR>Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:30 AM<BR>Subject: Re: Determinism<BR><BR><BR>> >by the way, does anyone care to comment on Marx's anti-Semitism?   or<BR>have<BR>> >i missed that discussion?<BR>> ><BR>> >R<BR>> ><BR>><BR>> Read Hal Draper's discussion of On the Jewish Question to deflate that<BR>> particular myth. This is in his big four volume work KM's Theory or<BR>> Revolution, I think in an appendix to one of the first two volumes. The<BR>long<BR>> and short of it is that Marx opposed Moses Hess's position of dealing with<BR>> disenfranchisement of Jews by giving them group rights, and urged instead<BR>> that all people be given civil and political rights; but he felt that this<BR>> would not solve the democratic deficiencies as long as society was based<BR>on<BR>> commerce--this was a very early formulation, pre-Marxist, as it were. He<BR>> thought that Hess was ignoring the social and economic problem. Because he<BR>> was writing at the time (1843) as a Young Hegelian, in the context of the<BR>> critique of religion, he expressed himselself in those terms, leading to<BR>> some unforunate formulations ("dirty Jewish" and the like). But there is<BR>> abolsutely nothing in Marx's life or later writings to lead one to think<BR>> that he was an anti-Semite like Bakunin (to name one), who hated Jews or<BR>> thought they should be treated worse than non-Jews. He hated religion of<BR>all<BR>> sorts of course. jks<BR>><BR>> _________________________________________________________________<BR>> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: <A href="http://mobile.msn.com">http://mobile.msn.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BODY></HTML>