<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <STYLE type=text/css>BLOCKQUOTE { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px } DL { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px } UL { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px } OL { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px } LI { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4916.2300" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>Bill B.:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>Don't you mean the alleged "criminal's" civil liberties? Oh sorry, its guilty until proved innocent - I keep forgetting.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>Look, do not let the legalese mumbo jumbo be a substitute for common sense.  The legal profession wants monopoly on deciding what is pro- and and what is anti- social (just like the doctors want the monopoly on deciding what is good for your health).  That monopoly is manifested, inter alia, by excessive legal formalism </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=152501818-04102002> <FONT color=#0000ff>- a person can be caught in the very act of committing a crime, but if the proper legal rituals are not followed to the letter, he will walk innocent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>Contrary to what you may think, I do value civil liberties, but I am not fundamentalist in that - I am not going to substitute common sense with a dogma.  Where I live (inner city Baltimore) I do not see  many cops harassing innocent people.  What I see is a bunch of hoodlums harassing everyone around them - anything from blasting their car radios at 2AM, to shouting obscenities, to demanding money, to breaking into cars and homes, and to assaulting people.  And I also see a bunch of hoodlums-in-training following the footseps of their older buddies, and vandalizing everything around them.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>These people destroy the quality of life (and lives!) and every normal person wants them out of their neighborhood.  And if they get a raw treatment in the process - hey, if you choose to act like a gangster do not be surprised if someone takes you for the real thing and treats accordingly.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>I think there is a balance between civil liberties, individuals rights, and public safety.  Apparently, many people in this country have problems finding that balance and oscillate between fascism and nihilism.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff>wojtek</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=152501818-04102002><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>