and i fail to see how it does apply to those. apart from maybe Amway none of those come to your door or even actively try to recruit people. also none of those except maybe amway, again, (i've had no experience with amway) require a reshaping of basic thought processes. for ex. i've never met a member of any high school debate team that thought they were 'scum' prior to becoming members of that group.
~M.E.
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