[lbo-talk] Atlantic Monthly Editor Killed in Iraq

Ian Murray seamus2001 at attbi.com
Fri Apr 4 11:34:16 PST 2003


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck0" <chuck at mutualaid.org> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Atlantic Monthly Editor Killed in Iraq


> Ian Murray wrote:
>
> >Golly, another anarchist giving anarchism a bad name. Go read some
> >Shakespeare.
> >
> >Doug, do you have that Foucault quote on 'the enemy' readily available?
> >
> >Ian
> >
> >
> Uh, Ian, what the hell does this have to do with me being an anarchist?

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You politically self-identify as an anarchist no? Or are you cheering his death as merely your non-anarchist self?


> Some of you seem to think that this is all some intellectual parlor game
> where the opposing sides go and get beers after the heated debate. You
> don't seem to understand that there are consequences when people
> willingly serve as paid commissars for the American state. Kelly was one
> of those commissars who manufactured consent among the Washington
> elites, to make sure that they were on the same page as the American
> ruling class. He didn't use his column to speak out for the billions of
> the world who are the victims of American policies. He used his column
> to attack activists and people who were trying to oppose these American
> policies, as well as working towards more radical change.

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Free speech is a pisser ain't it?


> Perhaps you are right--words have no power and they have no
consequences.

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To the contrary. And I've *never* asserted that words, theories etc. have no consequences. This war is a consequence of some horrific theories instantiating/operationalizing mass death and destruction.


> But Ian, are you an activist in Washington, DC? Do you expect us to be
> all smiley about whatever the Washington Post prints about us? Should we
> just ignore the fact that the Post editorial page board consists of
> Sebastian Mallaby, a columnist who consistently writes articles
> defending the World Bank, IMF and neoliberalism, while attacking
> activists in the anti-globalization and anti-capitalist movements?

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I worked in DC and it's immediate environs. for 12 years, I know the names and addresses of the imperialists, where they eat and where many of them sleep. I almost spend more time reading their drivel in order to work with others to outmaneuver their pathetic stranglehold on public discourse. Wishing for their deaths and cheering, which is what you did, when one of them dies in a needless war on the other side of the planet is just stupid.


>
> While I'm not exactly cheering Michael Kelly's death, I do feel relieved
> that we will have one less anti-radical columnist writing for the
> Washington Post, at least until they Post can find a suitable
replacement.
>
> Chuck0

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" I cheer the death of one less servant to US power."

Don't depersonalize and then repersonalize in order to attempt a retraction. The Washington Post is read by maybe 1million people a day. That leaves just under 6 billion people who don't read it. Do your tiny part and be *creative* in reaching out to those among the 6 billion of your choosing. You're an organizer, you know this.

Ian



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