[lbo-talk] Re: Know your enemy

H. Curtiss Leung hncl at panix.com
Fri Apr 18 07:18:12 PDT 2003


Ow...I have to disagree on two points here. First, I can't think of a single polite mention of either the Frankfurt School or its individual members that are even polite, let alone respectful, in Bloom's awful books. He says that Marcuse's work was "trashy cultural criticism," calls Adorno a "psycho-sociologist", and writes off all their work as a wrong headed "Nietzscheanization of the Left." Second, Marcuse studied with Heidegger--I think he supervised Marcuse's dissertation--and Horkheimer attended some of his lectures, but Adorno from first to last hated him. Dennis R. can give more info.

I don't think this is causual sloppiness either, but part of the Straussian strategy: polemicize against anything that might offer a antidote to the poison you're giving people. Misrepresent the real history and circumstances of debates and differences so that even the curious (potential apostates) can't quite get out of the magic circle you've drawn around them.


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>
> A comparitive analysis of the views of Hannah Arendt, Herbert
> Marcuse, and Leo Strauss might be of interest, since all
> of these former students of Heidegger seemed to have
> incorporated vast chunks of the old man's vision into
> their own work. I am reminded that when I first read
> Allan Bloom's *The Closing of the American Mind*,
> that he seemed rather unusually respectful when
> he was discussing the Frankfurt School, perhaps
> because he recognized that the Frankfurters and
> the Straussians shared a common origin with
> Heidegger.
>
> Jim F.
>
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 03:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Chuck Grimes <cgrimes at rawbw.com>
> writes:
> >
> > If I recollect Young-Bruehl's biography of Arendt correctly, Strauss
> > tried to woo Arendt in the 20s and she rejected him. Chris Doss
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Yeah, you're right. I completely forgot that. I just looked it
> > up. They knew each other through the Prussian state library where he
> > was working(?) for Gadamer(?).
> >
> > `` When she criticized his conservative political views and dismissed
> > his suit, he became bitterly angry. The bitterness lasted for
> > decades,
> > growing worse when the two joined the same American faculty at the
> > University of Chicago in the 1960s. Strauss was haunted by the rather
> > cruel way in which Hannah Arendt had judged his assessment of
> > National
> > Socialism: she pointed out the irony of the fact that a political
> > party advocating views Strauss appreciated could have no place for a
> > Jew like him...'' (98p, Young-Bruehl)
> >
> > So it might be worth looking into the detail of what Strauss had to
> > say early in the German nationalism debates of the 20s, where people
> > like Mann began to see the consequences of what he had orginally
> > written, show up as literary trappings for the early nazi
> > movements. Heidegger of course fits right in. And it was reflecting
> > on
> > this cultural phenomenon that later leads Cassirer to write the Myth
> > of State.
> >
> > Anyway any link, no matter how obscure between the German nazis and
> > the American Neoconservatives is fine by me. I always thought they
> > were nazis anyway.
> >
> > Chuck Grimes
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