Off List Re: [lbo-talk] Hey Brad

Jim Farmelant farmelantj at juno.com
Fri Apr 25 08:58:03 PDT 2003


On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> writes:
> Yes, I'm angry. And things are getting really scary. And the thing
> is, Castro is out of line, not only in general but on this one,
> which doesn't make it easier. But the effective thing to do, which I
> have started to do, is to write Amnesty Int'l letters. For the rest,
> Brad is an illiterate piece of excrement. I am constantly amazed at
> the morons who got good tenured jobs when I couldn;t. jks

What's the surprise? The powers that be would much rather grant tenure to a pliable moron who will do as he is told, than to someone of genuine talent who will think, write, and teach as they see fit.

Jiim F.


>
> Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> andie nachgeborenen wrote:
> >
> >
> > You gonna speak up about this? Cause if you don't, you have no
> right to tut tut the Cubans, and if we don't, none of us will have
> any rights at all. If you don't, you're a traitor to the human race.
> I don't want to hear another fucking word from you about Cuba until
> I see the petition yoi've organized on behalf of "the Democratic
> Left" to get Jose Padilla in front of a judge with a lawyer
> representing him and some showing on probable cause. Just for
> starters.
> >
> >[clip]
>
> I believe you are angry.
>
> I'm sort of sick.
>
> I blew up off the top of my head when I first saw the Z petition,
> but
> when I saw the debate spiral on several lists, what began to sink in
> was
> how god damn divisive such a petition was.
>
> There might be some justification if there were any reason to
> suppose
> that it would actually change anything for the better in Cuba
> (whatever
> that might mean) -- but since it sure as hell won't, it becomes
> merely
> personal indulgence on the part of those signing it. And it
> accomplishes
> absolutely nothing beyond creating a barnyard brawl among u.s.
> leftists
> who had just begun, it seemed to me, to be drawing together.
>
> Horrors in the Mideast. The Patriot Act at home. Possible nuclear
> war in
> Korea.
>
> And people who are almost sacred icons on the left start circulating
> a
> meaningless petition about the threat to enlightement values in
> Cuba.
>
> I've been slipping into a depression anyhow for about 4 weeks. I
> blew up
> at a public meeting early in April -- something I haven't done in
> over 5
> years. That was probably a signal that I was slipping a bit. I'm
> probably going to pull out of it quickly -- being retired and no
> grades
> to make out helps! -- and it's mild, but this sure as hell doesn't
> help.
>
> Carrol
>
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