[lbo-talk] Lukashenko & Belarus

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Tue Apr 29 11:07:29 PDT 2003


When I lived in Oakland, the laundromat across the street from my apt. bldg. was owned by a Hmong. The mgr. was the sole male survivor among his immediate family, several brothers and his Father having been soldiers in the CIA created Hmong army <URL: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hmong+CIA > of 10,000. On your rules, if I only knew about this aspect of the Vietnam War via, Warner, Roger. Shooting at the moon : the story of America' clandestine war in Laos / Roger Warner. South Royalton, Vt. : Steerforth Press, c1996 or Warner, Roger. Back fire : the CIA's secret war in Laos and its links to the war in Vietnam / Roger Warner. New York : Simon & Schuster, c1995 or obbins, Christopher, 1946-The Ravens : the men who flew in America's secret war in Laos / Christopher Robbins. New York : Crown, c1987 or Nolan, Keith William, 1964-Into Laos : the story of Dewey Canyon II/Lam Son 719, Vietnam 1971 / Keith William Nolan. Novato, CA : Presidio, c1986 or Fall, Bernard B., 1926-1967. Anatomy of a crisis; the Laotian crisis of 1960-1961. Edited with an epilogue by Roger M. Smith. Garden City, N.Y., Doubleday, 1969 or Burchett, Wilfred G., 1911-The second Indochina war; Cambodia and Laos, by Wilfred G. Burchett. New York, International Publishers [1970] or Brown, MacAlister. Apprentice revolutionaries : the Communist movement in Laos, 1930-1985 / MacAlister Brown, Joseph J. Zasloff. Stanford, Calif. : Hoover Institution Press, c1986 or Branfman, Fred. Voices from the Plain of Jars; life under an air war. Compiled, with an introd. and pref. by Fred Branfman. New York, Harper & Row [1972] or Two, three ... many Vietnams; a radical reader on the wars in Southeast Asia and the conflicts at home. Edited by the editors of Ramparts with Banning Garrett and Katherine Barkley. San Francisco, Canfield Press [1971] or Laos: war and revolution. Edited by Nina S. Adams and Alfred W. McCoy. New York, Harper & Row [c1970] BIB Call Number: 959.7 B7345v ISBN: 0060903007 : $1.95 or Conflict in Indo- China; a reader on the widening war in Laos and Cambodia. Edited by Marvin and Susan Gettleman and Lawrence and Carol Kaplan. New York, Random House [1970], I'D HAVE NO STANDING TO COMMENT ON THE HMONG AND THE CIA/OPIUM POPPY SMUGGLING, ETC?

That is as silly as some 20 yr. old college student saying that if I as a gay white male in San Francisco wish to comment on the struggles of third world transgenger prostitutes in Thailand like Solidarity member Peter Drucker <URL: http://solidarity.igc.org/atc/96Kinsman.html >here <URL: http://www.iire.org/workingpapers.html > N° 31 "In the Tropics There Is No Sin": Homosexuality and Gay/Lesbian Movements in the Third World, by Peter Drucker , I have no epistemological or ontological standing.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 02:13:32 -0400, Chris Doss <itschris13 at hotmail.com> wrote:


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> Go to Belarus and talk to some Belarusians. Then get back to me on what
> Volodya, Ira and Seryozha had to say. Until then, forwarded URLs from you
> mean squat to me.
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-- Michael Pugliese

"Without knowing that we knew nothing, we went on talking without listening to each other. Sometimes we flattered and praised each other, understanding that we would be flattered and praised in return. Other times we abused and shouted at each other, as if we were in a madhouse." -Tolstoy



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