> From: mike larkin
>
> from: <http://www.juancole.com/>
>
> "*About 35 Iraqis are murdered in Baghdad alone every
> day, most in gang-related violence, according to
> Rosalind Russell of Reuters. That is an annual murder
> rate of nearly 13,000, for this one city, population 5
> million. The murder rate for the United States, a
> country of over 280 million, in 2000? 16,000! Nor is
> Iraq just a violent society; physicians at Baghdad
> hospitals say they have never seen anything like it!
> Baghdad was quite safe under Saddam as long as you
> weren't involved in dissident politics. ..-clip-
> ^^^^^^
> CB: This seems to support the position of those of us who say it is the
> U.S.'s presence , not its absence or departure, that makes "chaos" ( uh
> oh, better call James Bond ) in Iraq.
Either that, or maybe the U.S had better institute a police state in Iraq. And quick.
"All right. Apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order ... what HAVE the Romans ever done for US?"