[lbo-talk] Beaten Black Man's Death a Homicide (Cincinnati)

Charles Brown cbrown at michiganlegal.org
Fri Dec 5 15:40:45 PST 2003


From: Wojtek Sokolowski

I do not think I've done anything wrong so there is no reason to avoid anything. Just sharing some personal experiences. "Pulling a Proyect" was meant to be humorous.

^^^^^ CB: I'm being humorous , too.

^^^^

As to the second part of your posting, I think you turn what I said on its head. I did not say that blacks or NAACP have a special responsibility to prevent creation of stereotypes. I said that making criminal thugs poster boys of struggle against discrimination does not strike me like a particularly effective strategy. That seems to undermine the organization's stated mission of "advancement" of the people it represents.

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CB: I haven't done a count, but my general impression is that the vast majority of victims of racist, police brutality , who are championed by civil rights orgs, are not criminal thugs.

In this particular case, in my opinion, using cocaine and other drugs does not make one a criminal thug. And certainly the death penalty is a way too stringent punishment for getting high. I missed it. Are they even alleging the victim had a weapon ?

Rereading your original post , I see that you urge the NAACP,etc., to avoid contributing to the stereotype by avoiding certain cases. And that they should, instead, work on cleaning up people who fit the stereotype ( " work(ing) to change behavior that fuels racist stereotypes "). This reminds of your idea that black youth should stop playing loud music, so that white men will like them better.

I mean this is a sort of novel approach, but it is problematic because it seems to imply that the root of racist attitudes in whites is actually bad behavior by blacks. In other words, you imply that the stereotype is true, not false.

Anyway, civil rights and black orgs like the NAACP ( not that it is perfect) do have a programmatic component of "lifting the race" by improving its members, so to speak. But as humorously implied in my last post, I'm not sure that any special responsibility for rehabilitation of Black bad guys falls on good Black people, does it ? Well, maybe because most of the victims of Black bad guys are other black people, but not as you imply with the purpose of raising white people's opinions of us.

Think of it like this: the line " Hey, we better clean up our act, because we are making white people prejudice against us " is not likely to catch on with Black people.



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