[lbo-talk] RE: White Supremacists Found With WMD in Texas

John K. Taber jktaber at tacni.net
Mon Dec 8 11:13:32 PST 2003


Jon Johanning <jjohanning at igc.org> wrote:


> On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 01:38 PM, Michael Pugliese
quoted:
>
> > Federal investigators were not looking for white
> supremacist groups
> > when they stumbled across Krar by accident.
> > He drew the FBI's attention when he sent a package of
> counterfeit ID's
> > for the United Nations and Defense Intelligence Agency to
> Feltus' New
> > Jersey home earlier this year. The package was mistakenly
> delivered to
> > a Staten Island man, who opened it and called police.
>
> Wonder why this story hasn't attracted more attention in the
media.
> This is the first time I've heard of it. Could it be that most
of the
> media wants the words "terrorism" and "weapons of mass
> destruction" to
> be firmly associated with Muslims/Arabs, rather than white
Americans,
> in the public's mind?
>
> And the FBI apparently isn't thinking much about the
possibility of
> white American "terrorists," either.
>
> > This was not the first time that Krar has drawn the
attention of
> > federal investigators. In 1995, the ATF investigated Krar
> and another
> > man on weapons charges. The other suspect told authorities
> at the time
> > that he and Krar shared an abiding hatred of the federal
government
> > and had been planning to bomb government facilities, court
records
> > show. But the suspect later recanted the story about
> plotting terror
> > attacks with Krar. Krar denied the allegation and was not
arrested,
> > according to records.
>
> This guy gets his legal rights scrupulously observed, while
> others are
> tossed into military brigs and Camp X-ray with no contact
> with lawyers,
> right to habeas corpus, or any assurance that they will ever
get out
> for the rest of their lives, just because Ashcroft and his
buddies
> thinks they might somehow have an Al-Qaeda connection.
>
>
>
> > While authorities work for a new break in the case, some
> > counter-terrorism experts question whether the government
might be
> > overlooking dangers closer to home while fighting the War
> on Terror in
> > the Middle East.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Former Dallas FBI Special Agent in Charge Danny Coulson was
> involved
> > in the nation's first stand-offs with domestic
> anti-government groups
> > and mounted some of the first intensive domestic terror
> > investigations. He cautioned that authorities should take
> care not to
> > forget about domestic groups while concentrating on foreign
ones.
> > "It's scary when you look at their capabilities," he said.
"Look at
> > the vulnerabilities of our society. We don't have to
> concern ourselves
> > only with foreign terrorists, but we need to concern
ourselves with
> > domestic terrorists too. And these guys are very dangerous."
>
> This guy Coulson sounds like some kind of subversive to me.
> Better keep
> him under observation, too!

It could be not much attention is paid because there isn't much there.

I don't know anything about this Tyler case, but I do know a little about the KKK case in Boyd, TX a few years ago mentioned in this story. Sorry, I no longer have the dates but it was reported in the Star-Telegram. See "Klansman depicted as snitch in bomb plot", Laura Vozzella, Ft Worth Star-Telegram.

The KKK leader in Boyd (Wise County) suckered his handful of followers into a plot to blow up some Mitchell Energy gas wells. There were several lawsuits over the wells, which residents swore polluted their drinking water. Most water is from wells, and most sewage is septic in Wise County. The plaintiffs won in the trial court, but of course, lost in the Second Court of Appeals, the notorious state appellate court in Ft Worth.

So, there was a lot of resentment against Mitchell, which misled the followers of Spence, the KKK leader, into thinking that blowing up a few Mitchell wells would be popular.

It was entrapment. Spence, according to local lore, was sick and tired of trailer park existance and wanted to send his daughters to college. He was an informer for the FBI. I suspect the same Dallas office ran the Tyler operation. When his handler suggested blowing up the wells, Spence jumped on it to get into the witness protection program.

The plot was absurd. The followers were arrested before anything happened, tried and sentenced to rather harsh terms. They should have had their asses kicked for stupidity instead.

Pugliese's story in Tyler is suspect from the start.

Y'all might check out the Dallas Morning News and see what you get. I found nothing on "krar".

I advise a little skepticism on stories like this.

-- John K. Taber



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