[lbo-talk] Children and socialism

Kenneth Campbell kkc at sympatico.ca
Thu Dec 11 13:54:37 PST 2003


I took some time with this post, because I think it is more important than some of the posturing about politics we do... The huge, overriding democratic/socialist/communist principles are good things... but there are children right now. I have two. If socialism (or whatever) is simply about intellectual arguments... then it's a game of intellectuals.

My children come first. Over anything. ANYTHING. Even over a bunch of preachy shit from Leninists and anarchists. That is not going to sell me in terms of my children. Not because of who is preaching... but because of their general detachment from the actual target of their preaching.

In Joanna's post... the children part, in particular, is notable.

It usually takes a female to remember the children aspect.

Joanna wrote:


>... and 2) the love that binds parents to their children.
>What I am arguing is that the first kind of love is not
>necessarily the best foundation for a relationship whose
>goal is the rearing of children. In fact these two forms
>of love may be entirely unrelated and therefore why
>should you give up or distort one in order to have the
>other?

Very well said.

Sticking a penis into a vagina and yelling "I LOVE YOU" when you shoot is not the same as caring for children.

Love for children is unconditional. But it is not some genetic thing. Only attached to the "penis sticking."

We need social responsibility tools to help children through this transition period -- when marriage and its re-arrangement that our society is going through is making their lives more difficult.

I wish more females would talk about that. And in a way that doesn't threaten males by making them seem like bad fathers...


>It doesn't have to be this way.
>
>Joanna

No, it does not.

Ken.

-- The Olden Days, alas, are turned to clay.

-- Ishtar, at the Deluge



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