partying on the right

[Liza Featherstone]

Well, actually, I have talked to a couple reactionary punks and goths, very
few I admit, but they did really get into the paradox. No I haven't made a
scientific study by any means, and you're right, of course I can't assume
that's true for everyone. Excuse me for having written an LBO-post that was
impressionistic and not completely based on the scientific method -- no one
else has EVER done that!! That said, I can say most young people are pretty
interested in how they look/dress, and what it says about them, and if they
have unusual politics, they have generally given some thought to how these
two aspects of their identities fit together.

This business of assuming one can read the motives of others -- it's odd
coming from you.  You are constantly claiming that I -- and others - make
comments or criticisms "in bad faith" when you have absolutely no way of
knowing what's in our heads. Or that people are lying, etc. You might want
to fix your own self before lobbing this particular accusation at others.

Liza 


> From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:03:07 -0600
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: Re: partying on the right
> 
> 
> 
> Liza Featherstone wrote:
>> 
>> Just that it's exactly the same sort of performance:  they're completely
>> reactionary, and wearing all the trappings of what used to be "oppositional"
>> culture, and they're obviously reveling in that paradox.
> 
> I think I have the same reaction to this that I have to a good deal of
> the criticism of ANSWER from you and from Doug. You are constantly
> claiming to be able to read the motives of others. Probably some are
> revelling in the paradox -- and some might just like the style without
> having thought about it. They've got shitty politics, why not just show
> the politics are shitty without the endless harping on real or imagined
> personality traits?
> 
> Carrol
> 
>> 
>>> From: joanna bujes <joanna.bujes at sun.com>
>>> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>>> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:01:58 -0800
>>> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>>> Subject: Re: partying on the right
>>> 
>>> At 08:13 PM 02/06/2003 -0500, Liza wrote:
>>>> The Party women with their dye-black bobs smoking outside
>>>> reminded me of the heavily-pierced, combat-boot wearing "right-to-life"
>>>> teenagers I've seen at recent abortion counter-protests.
>>> 
>>> That's interesting. How do you figure that?
>>> 
>>> Joanna
>>> 
>