Same old same old (Was DeLeuze, etc.)

Steven McGraw stmcgraw at vt.edu
Wed Jan 29 07:38:11 PST 2003



>Steve says he's a creeping democrat and not a Maoist, but I think his
endorsement of what he says is the
>parecon proposal that intellectuals and white color workers be forced to
do menial manual labor
>is equivalent
>to the Maoist idea of sending the intellectuals to the countryside.

As opposed to forcing blue collar workers to do menial labor, you mean? Well, such distinctions wouldn't exist in a parecon, as you well know, but leaving that aside...this is a sly misrepresentation of what pareconists actually say, which is that all job descriptions would ideally include some rote and menial tasks. Yes, there would be some limits on everyones choices, as there are now, as there would be under any system, no matter how well constructed. The way you put it here connotes chain-gangs of college professors making big rocks into little rocks, when in fact you know we envision nothing of the kind.


>What Steve saysd here does not dissuade me >from that, or even begin to
persuade me that parecon has a
>sensible way of dealing with fair distribution of
>unpleasant necessary labor.

No. Remember how I said that this could be a productive debate, but not if you insisted on name-calling and setting up straw men? Well, the Maoist-baiting hasn't stopped, so I am not going to continue this conversation. Sorry.

apologies for all the typos and syntax errors in these latest posts, i haven't been sleeping much lately

best wishes,

steve



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