[lbo-talk] Keynes on Trostky

JBrown72073 at cs.com JBrown72073 at cs.com
Mon Jul 7 23:05:27 PDT 2003



>> But JMK has a point about "the plan" -
>> which a lot of Revolutionaries act like they have.]
>>
>Could be. But then I wonder why I've never met any of them.
>
>Carrol

I'm all for using what we learn as we go along, but I have to say, at this point it would be almost refreshing to run into someone with a plan (Bob Avakian excepted--even with updaters).

Yoshie wrote:
>No social revolution (or "transformation of Society"), _be it
bourgeois or socialist_, was "planned" ahead of time, much less "planned" in a way that a policy proposal within the existing political framework (for a tax cut, a welfare reform, a Medicare privatization, a coup, an invasion, a terrorist attack, or whatever) lays out "a plan." There cannot be "a plan" for social revolution of the sort that Keynes expects.

I thought Keynes wasn't expecting it but objecting to it, the idea that the ideas had been all worked out ahead of time. Which would be like saying, well, we don't need any new data on this experimental cancer drug, we'll just stick with the old data. A decent political program accounts for this problem, includes a bit about how we figure things out.

Jenny Brown



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