[lbo-talk] I don't get it...

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Wed Jul 16 14:02:47 PDT 2003


On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:24:09 -0400, Chuck0 <chuck at mutualaid.org> wrote:


> Speak for yourself. Most of the anti-war activists I know were pretty
> skeptical of all the bullshit about Saddam's WMD.
>
> Chuck0

http://www.guardian.co.uk/anthrax/story/0,1520,576782,00.html Scott Ritter sayeth
> ... Iraq procured the Vollum strain of anthrax from American Type Culture
> Collection, a company based in Rockville, Maryland, which provides
> commercially available viruses - such as anthrax - to consumers
> worldwide. While Iraq had investigated other strains, including those
> indigenous to the country, it was the Vollum strain that Iraq mass-
> produced for weapon use.

>...Most of the anti-war activist I know...

Well, as you usefully pointed out to Yoshie (who I'm still more than peeved about, as she asked for the ufpj list addresses so she could sub to them, as I'd done a week or two before she asked, I sent to the list, and now she tells me not to cyber-stalk her?! Jeesh. Papa V.I. Ulyanov would have chewed her out big time. Called her a Machist or some such, heh.), the anti-war movement is a multi-tendency affair, from libertarian communists, authoritarian leninoids, left-liberals like a David Cortright (who was once much more left, see an article of his in Monthly Review, circa 1975) and Scott Sagan, who I saw on a panel w/ Doug and Laura Flanders, who writes on weapons proliferation at a Monterrey, Ca. think tank.

Methinks, unless, you have activist contacts far to your right, among the left-libs and NGO crowd, whp produce reports which show up on syllabi such as this, your view is just as pqartial, as anyone's, limited by the set of contacts and information sources as you choose to make yourself aware of. I've begun to call such statements, that either express shock or surprise or derision towards those that have their expections dashed by disconfirmation of their assumptions, anything from the Hitler-Stalin Pact to Nixon getting re-elected in '72, the Pauline Kael effect. "Oh, I just don't see how this could have happened. No one I know voted for Nixon!" Well, as Max said recently, if bell hooks was on the ballot and only lbo- talkers were allowed to vote she's be President. And, if Yoshie somehow won and became dominatrix of the proletariat, this classic of radical filmmaking would be a prequel, http://www.geocities.com/spacematters195/gender-bib.html Born in Flames. Icarius Video. 1983. After a socialist governmental revolution in the United States, the Women's Army fights for equality against the violence that attempts to keep them silent.

And don't most leaflets w/ endorsements always say, "Organization listed for informational purposes only, " so even if it says, John Q. Labor Lietenent of Social Imperialism, UAW Local 600, AFL-CIO, everyone, pretty much speaks for themselves, anyway.

-- Michael Pugliese



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