[lbo-talk] Democrats' Weapons of Mass Distraction

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

At 3:14 PM -0700 7/17/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
>>Attacking Bush & Co. as liars and warmongers is just _a means_; 
>>_the end_ is to Bring the Troops Home and End the Occupation.
>
>Well, ending occupation is just a means, the real point is to 
>replace capitalist production relations with common onwershipa nd 
>democratic control of the maens of production . . .

I'm talking about the end in the near future, and the end in the near 
future is to Bring the Troops Home and End the Occupation.

At 3:14 PM -0700 7/17/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
>My point was (I believe) that we can be really really happy that the 
>media/public tide is turning against the Bushies, even if it is not 
>expressing intself in anti-imperialist, internationalist, or 
>socialist terms.

The question is not whether we should be happy or unhappy.  We aren't 
spectators.  The question is what we, as organizers and activists, 
should be doing now, now that we have an opportunity -- the cultural 
tide is turning against Bush & Co. -- but also _a danger_ -- the 
likelihood that they are going to send _more_ troops for _longer_ 
terms for a campaign of _counter-insurgency and "pacification"_ in 
order to defend the occupation.

At 3:14 PM -0700 7/17/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
>moderately unacceptable Democrat (not Lieberman) who can actually 
>win (Kerry? Gephart?) would be worth supporting

No commitment to immediate withdrawal, no vote.
-- 
Yoshie

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