>At some point, the US left has to get beyond all its procedural bases for
>foreign policy and decide, in alliance with other global folks around the
>world, what is the moral basis for the international order. The human
>rights movement, which I don't agree with across the board, at least has a
>general idea of what it wants beyond a purely negative "US out of
>everywhere" proceduralism.
That's a weird definition of proceduaralism - it's just basic anti-imperialism. But what's your moral compass telling you about an Iraqi government. Suppose it emerges as an Islamic theocracy - that might be democratic, but I doubt you'd approve. So what do you & the other "global folks" think you should be agitating for?
Doug