[lbo-talk] no dissent, we're Americans!

R rhisiart at charter.net
Mon Jun 2 17:05:33 PDT 2003


----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] no dissent, we're Americans!

Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> R wrote:
>
> >how far back does your memory go? if you're old enough, haven't you
noticed
> >some change from the days of edward r morrow to today, nationally?
>
My memory goes back to about 1942 -- and I really haven't noticed much change -- except that fewer blacks are lynched in the south -- and more, perhaps, are murdered by the police in the north.

did you read this in the papers?

I did not _once_ see any reference, during the Korean War, in any newspaper or on any radio or tv program, of the existence of an anti-war movement (and, as I discovered a couple decades later, there had been a fairly lively one). When I began opposing the Vietnam War in the mid '60s I still assumed (and had never seen anything to the contrary in any publication) that the Korean War had been a "good war."

If there has been any change it has probably been for the better in fact.

No one in the media attacked McCarthy until he attacked Eisenhower and began to be a real nuisance to those in power.

Carrol

carroll, McCarthy attacked the US Army. remember? one of our societies sacred cows. it was the Army/McCarthy hearings that brought him down. mcCarthy outlived his usefulness.

generally, your facts are correct, carrol, but they have nothing to do with media monopolies, or concentration. the changes you believe are for the better occured largely due to social movements in the 1960s and were due, among other things, to people who fought concentration of media ownership.

what i read about the korean war was that it was very divisive. it was not regarded as a good war, except by WW II nostalgia buffs who considered every US war a good war. eisenhower was praised for ending it even though there has never been a peace treaty between No Korea and USA.

i fail to see how Fox, General Electric, Disney and Viacom are any better than the media you remember. news about lynchings was prominent in the Black press, which was muzzled during WW II. did you read these publications? the discrimination afroAmericans continue to suffer is less overtly violent but just as destructive now, and just as covered up. the recent antiWar demonstrations were not covered nearly as well or as completely as vietnam antiWar demonstrations. the media is biased any way you look at it. concentration of media ownership assures those biases will be more uniform, less divisible, more oppressive.

how old where you in 1942, carrol? ;-)

R

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