[lbo-talk] Opportunity costs of campaigning for Dems

[Michael McIntyre]

Carrol & Yoshie, as far as I can tell, were talking about the opportunity costs of working for Dems rather than doing something else.  Energy given to campaigning for Dems WILL come out of energy that could be devoted to other organizing tasks.  Carrol & Yoshie may be wrong about where it's best to devote their energies, but talking about that issues is not changing the subject.

Michael McIntyre

Doug Henwood wrote, in response to Carrol & Yoshie:

Of course it makes a difference who's in the WH. I'll bet about 80% 
of the world's population would agree. But you & Yoshie can't admit 
that, so you've got to change the subject. I have no illusions about 
what a Democratic president would accomplish. But it would almost 
certainly make things slightly less bad. It would also encourage the 
development of more radical politics - it happened in the 60s, and it 
happened in the 90s too. Right now, the U.S. state is in the hands of 
the most reactionary, bellicose, and repressive gang in living 
memory. It's like Michael Savage's id is occupying 1600. But you're 
so lost in your own fantasy of revolution - the revolution that you 
have no strategy for promoting that I can see - that you can't be 
bothered. Fucked up.