[lbo-talk] RE: Soviet nomenklatura privileges

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Kitsch isn't necessarily self-consciously appreciated as such. I have a friend who collects Hummel figurines. I would never make fun of them to her face. She thinks they are cute. Soviet culture wasn't always kitschy, but post war Soviet culture was almost all kitschy, except for classical music and dance, and except for the few yewars of the Thaw. As for the hammer and sickle, I never saw it displayed outside an obviously official context in the USSR or any East European country in Soviet times. Nothing like the ubiquity of the flag here. jks

Chris Doss <itschris13 at hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>
> > . In fact, I would go so
> >far as to say Russian culture doesn't really possess a notion of kitsch.
> >People love Soviet pop music.
>
>Soviet culture, classical music and dance aside, was all kitsch. The high 
>art stuff was underground.
>
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Russians wouldn't see it as kitsch (by "kitsch" I mean old-fashioned stuff 
you mock and utilize at the same time). You don't mean to be saying Bernes 
and Vysotsky are kitch?


>Which did NOT happen in Soviet times. A (very typical) emigre acquaintance 
>of mine, came over in '90, was astounded to see, as she put it, American 
>workers voluntarily flying the flag. Of course she'd see that now in Russia 
> -- the Soviet flag, I mean.
>
Yes, you would. You would see it at CPRF rallies and on people's tee-shirts 
and jackets.

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