[lbo-talk] Framed (Was Everything's coming up roses)

Maria Gilmore mgilmore at bigzoo.net
Mon Jun 23 04:18:51 PDT 2003


I don't have anyone to quote, <G> but something occurs to me. "Consequential" punishment is a method of getting most people in a society to toe a line by making examples of individuals; it isn't necessarily too picky about the guilt or innocence of the specific cases, the important thing is to deter behavior across the board. The "you've gotta break some eggs to make an omelet" argument. It's okay with the occasional innocent being one of those broken eggs for the greater good. Except...there are always going to be people who KNOW that person is an innocent victim. Family, friends, defense attorneys, not to mention cops, prosecutors, judges...and of course the person themselves. So every innocent punished in such a system generates resentment, disillusionment, and cynicism about the society in possibly dozens of others, for whom the deterrent effect likely won't work because they know justice has not been done, the innocent has been punished and the guilty has not. After a while you're going to have a reservior of people in this society who know the system's idea of "justice" is a load of crap. People with that attitude, I'd think, wouldn't be deterred from anti-social behavior, in fact they'd be more apt to offend against the society in some way...again, a vengeance model in reverse...



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