And one problem with such utilitarian calculations is that they don't really work. After half a million Iraqi dead the net result for the movement will be -- nada. We won't have gained a damn thing.
We really do need to aim at winning when winning is even theoretically possible. And it is possible now.
Carrol
Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
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> On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 05:18 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote:
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> >
> > point is the Bushies are worried. Marta
> >
> > -------
> >
> > I don't want them worried. I want them arrogant, strong, confident,
> > resolute, and absolutely sure of themselves so that they will commit
> > the worst military atrocity in US history and be irrevocably abjured
> > for it--not as just the worst administration in US history, but also
> > the most criminal, vile, arrogant and loathsome.
> >
> > I want them to be cited by the rest of the world as the example of
> > what the United States represents and tossed in the face of every
> > American as a universal insult and stinging rebuke.
> >
> > We are about two thirds there already. We just need a few hundred
> > thousand dead Iraqis to finish the job.
> >
> >
>
> you should be careful when you talk this way. the utilitarian calculus
> involved is colder than anything i've seen from luke.
>
> j