hypocrite liberal! mon semblable

[JBrown72073 at cs.com]

Yoshie:
>> Moreover, there is always a great deal of tension between liberalism
>and democracy in liberal democracy under capitalism (and perhaps also 
>under socialism, too), 
>
Justin:
>So? This will only bother you if you expect all your ideals to mesh in
>a tension-free way. Life is about tradeoffs. get used to it

I read Yoshie to be pointing out that there is a problem for many 
(non-socialist) liberals that liberal democracy is hard (sometimes 
impossible) to achieve or maintain under capitalism.  So, depending on one's 
point of view, you're either being refreshingly or maddeningly consistent.

Jenny Brown