"Max B. Sawicky" wrote:
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> The best way to help the Kurds is to give them
> some of those cool toys the US military has.
I think we should oppose _all_ u.s. arms sales abroad.
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> Better perhaps to call for UN administration
> ASAP after 'liberation.' But nothing should
> impede the imperative for the U.S. military to
> pull back. Demanding 'Turkey, hands off Kurdistan'
> points to the U.S. staying in Kurdistan.
Yes.
We can only affect the u.s. government, and we can only affect it by saying no to it. Every "positive" suggestion the anti-war movement makes will be lost in the shuffle, while blunting and confusing its prime position of "No War." U.S. out of everywhere."
We've got to get rid of the "soft left" illusion that individuals can pick and choose among u.s. foreign policies and still make any difference to anyone.
But the main hope for eventually getting the U.S. out of the middle east is mounting attacks on u.s. troops, government officials, and businesses there. That may take a long time. The multitudes we are attracting now will (temporarily) fade away. We have to maintain continuity during that time.
Incidentally, anyone who works for Halliburton in Iraq is a scab. We don't need to support scabs or wish for their well-being.
Carrol
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> I'm open to better ideas.
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> mbs
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> Interesting piece by Aso Jeff. Look it up on the Kurdish Media homepage:
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> <http://come.to/kurdishmedia/>
>
> The close:
>
> "And now, in spite of its deep commitment to the cause of peace, the
> anti-war movement must put its astonishing size, diversity, and
> proliferation in the service of the Iraqi people, and take the next step.
> Its considerable humanistic impulse and organizational talent must not be
> allowed to wilt now that the bombs have started falling on Baghdad.
>
> "The US administration has stated that the war on Iraq is a war of
> liberation, naming it 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' and the anti-war movement
> must gather its energies and slogans and take to the streets to hold the
> administration accountable.
>
> "The movement must insist on the following:
>
> "The US must ensure that Turkey does not threaten the Kurds and their
> experiment in democracy inside Iraq.
>
> "The Iraqi Opposition program for a transition to democracy in Iraq must
> form the basis of any post-war government.
>
> "Humanitarian aid will be needed immediately. The US must work with the UN
> to relieve the suffering and displacement that will be inevitably caused by
> the war.
>
> "A post war reconstruction plan must be articulated, implemented, and
> followed through with full resolve.
>
> "Now that the war has begun, it becomes a matter of outmost moral urgency to
> move from a position of mere opposition to war, to one of demanding that the
> outcome of the war be what the people in Iraq desire more than anything –
> and that is to be liberated and free to decide their own fate."
>
> Noble, but has Jeff spoken to anyone from Halliburton yet?
>
> DP