See:
www.solohq.com/Forum/messages/32/473.shtml?1047039330#POST2939
www.solohq.com/Forum/messages/32/473.shtml?1047039330#POST2940
http://coldfury.com/reason/comments.php?id=P329_0_1_0
http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind0303&L=hayek-l&F=&S=&P=5362
Oh yes, Chris does call himself an Objectivist, although most of the so-called orthodox Objectivists like Len Peikoff and his crowd don't regard him as being the genuine article, because he talks too much about dialectics, which makes them mighty uncomfortable. Also, Chris hardly agrees with Doug's Randite friend concerning the war with Iraq.
Jim F.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:12:46 -0800 (PST) andie nachgeborenen
<andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Chris is REALLY smart, wrote a first-rate book on Marx and Hayek,
> used to participate on the old spoons Marxism list. He was a student
> of Ollman. I am not sure that he is an objectivist. He has written
> several book on Rand. I used to try to get him to explain what he
> saw in her, which he was never able to do to my satisfaction. Hayek
> of course, that's another story. Hayek's a major thinker. jks
> Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:Jim Farmelant wrote:
>
> >I would agree. The one truly smart Objectivist around is Chris
> >Sciabarara, who needless to say, would never write a piece of
> >crap, like that of David Holcberg. Then again, Chris is one of the
> >few Objectivists and libertarians who has more than a superficial
> >knowledge of Marxism and Hegelianism. It is curious that most of
> the
> >orthodox Objectivists have become staunch war mongers despite,
> >what should be obvious to them, that "war is the health of the
> state."
>
> I asked Holcberg about this. Here's the correspondence (in reverse
> chronological order).
>
> Doug
>
> ----
>
> [second exchange]
>
> >Reply-To:
> >From: "ARI Media"
> >To: "Doug Henwood"
> >Subject: RE: Peaceniks' Motivation
> >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:46:20 -0800
> >
> >What's your point?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Doug Henwood [mailto:dhenwood at panix.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:14 AM
> >To: davidh at aynrand.org
> >Subject: RE: Peaceniks' Motivation
> >
> >
> >ARI Media wrote:
> >
> >>You misunderstand Ayn Rand's philosophy. We are not against the
> state,
> >>we are for *individual rights*, which can only be secured by the
> state
> >>(including the military).
> >
> >This is a little different.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >----
> >
> >"The Roots of War," _The Objectivist_ 1966
> >by Ayn Rand
> >
> >It is said that nuclear weapons have made wars too horrible to
> >contemplate. Yet every nation on earth feels, in helpless terror,
> >that such a war might come.
>
> [rest of essay posted by Yoshie followed]
>
>
> >Doug,
> >
> >You misunderstand Ayn Rand's philosophy. We are not against the
> state,
> >we are for *individual rights*, which can only be secured by the
> state
> >(including the military).
> >David
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Doug Henwood [mailto:dhenwood at panix.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:03 AM
> >To: David Holcberg
> >Subject: Re: Peaceniks' Motivation
> >
> >
> >ARI Media wrote:
> >
> >>Members of the so-called peace movement are not motivated by love
> of
> >>humanity but by hatred of America. They don't care about the Iraqi
> >>victims of Saddam Hussein's regime. If they had their way, Iraqis
> would
> >>suffer another three decades of oppression, fear and torture under
> >>Saddam. Nor do the peaceniks care about preventing the next
> September
> >>11. If they did, they would support--not denounce--our war on
> terror.
> >
> >Wow. You guys come up with some pretty crude stuff. Just wondering,
> >though - for a bunch of antistatists you seem to love the military.
> >Surely you're familiar with Randolph Bourne's famous essay, War is
> >the Health of the State
> >. Doesn't all
> >the secrecy and coercion bother you, or do "special bodies of armed
> >men" get a free pass from the Rand Institute? I'd be very grateful
> if
> >you could address this in a future piece.
>
>
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