[lbo-talk] Awww...soo sad....

BrownBingb at aol.com BrownBingb at aol.com
Thu May 1 06:14:04 PDT 2003



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> >Charles: So it is with the history of fascism. We look to general
> patterns in it
> > that
> > may give insight into fighting "open terrorist dictatorship by the most
> > reactionary sectors of capital" should it develop in the present or near
> > future.
>
> Well, perhaps. But:
>
> a) Establishing the "laws of history," even with the renowned
> intellectual tools of Marxism, is a lot harder than many people suspect.
> Every time someone comes up with such a law, someone else seems to
> refute it.
>
> b) Where is the evidence that Weimar/Nazi Germany is about to replicate
> itself now in this country? If it were, we might presumably learn from
> that experience what to do about it, but what if the factors defining
> the situation we are in now bear no particular relationship, even as a
> "general pattern," to Germany in that period?
>
> Charles: In this case, we start with symptoms not diagnosis ( upon further
> analogy to biology). The U.S. recently has made big moves in the direction
> from a bourgeois democratic republic regime to more open dictatorship, more
> open terrorist rule by its govenment. As doctors of history we say "where
> have we seen these symptoms before ? " Fascist Italy, fascist Germany
> immediately come to mind from our medical history books because the U.S. is
> a hypermilitarist, state- monopoly , capitalist power like Nazi Germany,
> animated by severe national chauvinism and racism, war and anti-communism.
> It is a corporatist state, as Mussolini declared Fascist Italy to be. This
> could be a genetically mutated virus , or something, I mean in analogy to
> medicine and biology.
>
> This is just a hypothesis. Many hypotheses must compete for explaining the
> sick U.S. state.

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