[lbo-talk] LBJ, Diem, and Kennedy [Kaiser]

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Sun Nov 2 08:42:00 PST 2003


<URL: http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H- Diplo&month=0310&week=a&msg=9ub9WXoTK1JwKt9H8%2bhlNg&user=&pw= > Thread on the JFK query earlier here. http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=lm&list=H-Diplo From: "Kaiser, David, Prof." <kaiserd at nwc.navy.mil> List Editor: "H-DIPLO [Rausch]" <h-d1plo at socrates.Berkeley.EDU> Editor's Subject: LBJ, Diem, and Kennedy [Kaiser] Author's Subject: LBJ, Diem, and Kennedy [Kaiser] Date Written: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:49:04 -0700 Date Posted: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:49:04 -0700

It is a very sad fact of modern life that journalists and popular historians have no understanding of basic rules of evidence, and do not take the trouble to find authoritative works on subjects they choose to discuss.

As many of you know, I exhaustively researched and reported the Kennedy Administration's role in the Diem coup in my book, American Tragedy (which is not mentioned in the Weekly Standard.) Using contemporary documentation and audio tapes, I made two things very clear.

1. On only one occasion did President Kennedy refer to Diem's possible fate in a coup. At that time--during the last week of August 1963--he definitely said that Diem should be exiled and that nothing more should happen to him.

2. The Kennedy Administration, in a last meeting on October 30--two days before the coup--simply decided that they would not stand in the way of a coup if one took place. The discussion shows considerable skepticism as to whether one was going to take place. When the execution of the coup began, Conein got about an hour's warning.

It has been well known for many, many years that Lyndon Johnson opposed the coup from the beginning, and that he (and Nixon) liked to blame the coup for the war. It should be clear to any intelligent person with any familiarity with LBJ that he was blowing off steam, not reporting verbatim conversations. He was referring to the view of Hilsman and Harriman (whom he fired and demoted, respectively, within months of taking office) that Diem had to be replaced.

It is sad to realize, when one has devoted years of one's life to searching out the facts of a controversial historical incident, that when it comes to controversial events, only a small minority of Americans will be interested in those facts. David Kaiser Naval War College

-- Michael Pugliese



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