[lbo-talk] Re: dean and rebel flags

[Joseph Wanzala]

I would invite you to place a confederate flag in your rear window and drive 
around say the poor West Oakland neighborhood where I live. It would be 
interesting to see how poor black would react. I seriously doubt that people 
who sport the confederate flag do so oblivious to its meaning - and if they 
do it does not make its meaning any less significant. Despite revisionist 
efforts to re-cast the confederate flag as a symbol of Southern liberty are 
disingenuous in the extreme. This symbol of malevolence and white supremacy 
was flown for the first time since the 1860s in 1962 at the height of the 
civil rights struggle by the racist govt. of South Carolina claiming that 
they were just celebrating the centennial of the Civil War - typical of the 
intellectual decietfulness of the racism behind this symbol - where people - 
like yourself, want to pretend to fly the flag under other pretexts, well 
knowing the real symbolic meaning it carries. Let's get real about this.

Joe W.


>From: frank scott <frank at marin.cc.ca.us>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: [lbo-talk] Re: dean and rebel flags
>Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:43:39 -0800
>
>"...For his ("shocking!") embrace of Confederate flag wavers..."
>
>shocking indeed...like our biggest problem in the world is confederate
>flags on trucks...
>
>   liberals, and some others, who need oxygen over this "shocker" should
>understand that many working class folks who sport rebel flags on trucks
>or t-shirts , do so to indicate that they are, ahem, individuals, free,
>not to be pushed around, oakland raider fans, etc., and have nothing -
>absolutely nothing - to do with racism, since the people who sport them
>aren't as sophisticated as liberals and may not know about symbolism
>that is, really, pretty outmoded, for most working class whites and many
>if not most blacks as well...
>
>I'd also venture a guess that only political and upper middle class
>blacks - and of course, their white liberal friends - are really
>concerned about such symbols....others who suffer from institutionalized
>racism hardly need such nonsense to symbolize  how awful it is...our
>prisons are filled with those not priviliged to suffer from symbols,
>having been forced to deal with a dreadful, material reality.
>
>fs
>
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