[lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth

Liza Featherstone lfeather32 at erols.com
Mon Nov 10 10:03:08 PST 2003


I'm inclined to agree with Brian. Traditional Americans are far wilder than FrontPage thinks. Travelling in Arkansas recently, I went drinking with a travelling salesman, who tried to get me to accept Jesus as my personal savior. When I politely declined, he tried equally persistently to persuade me to come back to Missouri and have a threesome with him and his wife. No thanks, I said, I'm married. "That don't mean nothin!" he objected. My sense is he's not unusual, and that "traditional America" is a pretty crazy place, not so different from Oberlin College as its demogogues would like to think.

Liza


> From: Brian Siano <siano at mail.med.upenn.edu>
> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:20:33 -0500
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org, brian at briansiano.com
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth
>
> Doug Henwood wrote:
>
>> mike larkin wrote:
>>
>>> Hilarious.
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10633>http://www.fr
>>> ontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10633
>>>
>>>
>>> "....Oberlin embodies a far-Left paradise of agitation, Marxist
>>> activism and sexual licentiousness. It is, in short, a model of the
>>> Leftís paradise. It is specifically for this reason that it resembles
>>> most traditional Americansí version of Hell....
>>>
>>> "In April, Carmen Vazquez, a self-avowed butch lesbian socialist,
>>> gave a lecture in which she reproached the queer movement for
>>> avoiding larger public policy issues. She enjoined queer activists to
>>> battle neo-conservative American leaders in a quest to prevent a new
>>> fascist American state. Then she encouraged students to have sex.
>>>
>>> "So did author and poet Nikki Giovanni, another campus speaker. Not
>>> to be outdone, Joani Blank, owner of the Good Vibrations sex
>>> superstore in San Francisco and Down There Press, a publisher of
>>> erotica, not only encouraged students to have sex when she spoke at
>>> Oberlin in 2000, but discussed her businesses role in providing sex
>>> toys to the customers the world over. Apparently, she is the only
>>> capitalist Oberlin could appreciate."
>>
> Just where the _hell_ are Frontpage finding these "traditional
> Americans?" I mean, everywhere I go, it's sort of a truism that straight
> men usually _like_ the idea of women making love to one another. I like
> to think of this as a gallant gesture on the part of us hets; while many
> of us try our best, we have to face the regrettable fact that many of
> our sex aren't very good at pleasuring women. So the thought of women
> turning to each other fills many of us with a warm, indulgent, "we
> understand" sort of feeling. In fact, I'd go far as to say that we
> actually _enjoy_ the thought of women turning to one another, and
> finding that loving, sympathetic, and above all _understanding_ love
> that we've been seeking in our own lives. "Good for them," we think.
> Especially when it involves baby oil.
>
> But here are the _Frontpage_ people, asserting that a college where
> women are finding this wonderful, picturesque, and
> frequently-well-photographed love is regarded as a "version of Hell" by
> "most traditional Americans." What are they talking about? Have we men
> been missing something? Are there truly men out there so hateful, so
> sadistic, so hating of women that they would regard the beautiful
> spectacle of women loving women as "hell?" Are there truly men who, when
> presented with a photo essay on two innocent cheerleaders discovering a
> mutual love far deeper than they'd previously suspected, would react
> with screams of psychic torment? Are there truly men who psychologically
> crippled that, when shown a film of Lucy and Katy and Brooke breaking
> out the sex toys and K-Y jelly while their husbands are away, they
> clutch their hands over their eyes and wail their spiritual desolation
> to the skies? Are there truly men for whom the spectacle of a
> double-ended-dildo thrusting in and out of the hot, dewy regions of
> Cynthia and Kaylee and the twins Naoko and Kiuchi inspires the despair
> of a Godless universe?
>
> No, I'm afraid, I cannot bring myself to think that such men are truly
> representative of "most traditional Americans." After all, Americans are
> a traditionally friendly and generous people, welcoming of immigration
> and sharing of our opportunities. In fact, to say that "traditional
> Americans" would find such evils in hot girl-on-girl action amounts to a
> grave and spiteful _insult_ against many of our hallowed and well-loved
> traditions. No, this isn't just the wild speculation of a clearly
> deranged individual. This article is, in fact, a monumental _insult_
> against all that is great and good about America.
>
>
>
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