well, like, d'oh! you're going around in circles, girrrrrrrrrrrrl!
who exactly are you wringing your aprons over? what's at stake? you haven't answered the question. you just keep qualifying your answer: "let me try this angle. now another. hey, maybe i can get at it this way?!" it's like watching a clown riding a unicycle around a cul-de-sac trying to figure out how to get out of a suburban housing tract. honk honk.
Kelley
if you see someone beating a dead horse, share your viagara!