[lbo-talk] Campaigning vs. Voting

[uvj at vsnl.com]

> Tahir: I think we've seen quite a bit of anti-capitalist activity in the
>"developed countries" lately. Take Genoa for example, a sea of people with
>very many red flags. In which third world country have you seen something
>like that recently?

Is it strong enough to visualise "dual power"?


>> e.g. If "Leninist"views are correct and the resilience of imperialism in
the
>> "First World" depends largely on the exploitation of the "Third World"
>>("super profits etc.), then there appears to be no basis to believe that
the
>> Left can grow in the "First World."


> Tahir: Yes, but only if you accept that hoary old theory. BTW I believe
>that the late sixties represented a high water mark in class struggles in
>the US, at a time when workers had a higher standard of living than they do
>today. According to the logic of your message, the intensity of class
>struggle in any country would simply be a function of the rate of
>exploitation in that country, which is demonstrably false, I think.

I am not a Leninist. I meant this as an example of a discourse that would
deny the possibility of the emergence of an independent Left party/movement
in the US.

Ulhas