> > Social conditioning and the ability to be socially conditioned is a
>> valid and successful variation of the ability to self-programme the
>> brain in order to adapt.
>
>I was told to fuck off about all this, but this ridiculous topic is very
>near to making me quit this whole fucking list. Not only is the above
>sentence unreadable and meaningless,
Sorry about that, tried to express the idea more briefly than my limited abilities permit perhaps. You have to read it in context though. All I'm getting at is that the capacity of humans to be mentally conditioned is part of the capacity to adapt our programming and train ourselves to react to particular situations in particular ways. It is far from unique to humans, that sort of intelligence is fairly primitive. Social conditioning seems to be just a variation of that, but my point was that mental conditioning is a form of self-programming rather than indicating an inability to self-programme or re-programme, as was the suggestion.
Its pretty simple stuff. But if you start from the precept that computers are machines and the brain isn't a machine, so one has nothing to do with the other, then you aren't going to be able to see it. Why isn't the brain a machine anyhow? Because it doesn't have any discernable control panel?
Anyhow, why pick on me, why are you sparing the wankers who make specious claims that "steel is conscious"? Don't make the mistake of thinking I'm a soft target, lest I take it into my head to make an example of you.
Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas