[lbo-talk] Black music makes history

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 11 16:11:28 PDT 2003


Panglossery. Of course 99.999999999999999999% of the songs (and singers) of the golden age of Tin Pan Alley was dreck. But that era (1920-60, roughly) produced: The Gershwins, Harold Arlen Rogers & Hart, Cole Porter, Johnny Mercer, Irving Berlin -- at that was just at the top. As for singers, that era also gave us Ella & Sarah & Louis & Billie & Frankie & Tony Bennett & Peggy Lee -- and THAT's just at the top. Not to forget my person fave, Helen Merrill (like Tony Bennett, still with us)

And what have you got to put to all that? Bjork. She may be interesting, but show some humility and respect, please. Sheesh. jks

--- Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Shane Taylor wrote:
>
>
> > I don't know. The White Stripes did a superb
> cover of Son House's Death
> > Letter. But it seems like you have to wade
> through the muck for
> > musicians like them. Maybe it's always been this
> way and the passage of
> > time acts as a sieve. But sometimes I feel the
> tug of the same
> > "primitive reaction" Justin notes above, despite
> the fact that there are
> > volumes of fresh new greats of which I'm
> oblivious. I guess we recall
> > mainly the best from the past and can't help but
> see the majority of crap
> > in the present.
> >
> > -- Shane
>
> Yep. George Massenburg (recording engineer) likes to
> tell the
> story about Linda Ronstadt's breathless respect for
> songwriters
> in "the good old days", when they created all those
> great
> songs. The old studio geezers just laughed: "there
> were
> lots of awful songs written then, everybody's just
> forgotten them."
>
> Moral: at any one point in time, most of the popular
> music
> is pretty pathetic, but there always some
> interesting stuff
> going on. (Case in point: Bjork.)
>
> --And on this "Hendrix as hiphop" conceit: by that
> logic,
> Muddy Waters and John Lee Hooker are "hiphop".
> Isn't
> that casting the net a bit wide?
>
>
> Miles
>
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