[lbo-talk] People are objects

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Wed Oct 15 21:44:00 PDT 2003


Brian Siano wrote:


>People _are_ objects. They occupy space, they have mass, they have
>definable shapes and boundaries. The fact that one can interact with
>other humans to a highly complex degree does not make them _not_
>objects.

This is pure sophistry. It takes a situational reality--that individual people, dogs, cockroaches, plants, microbes--can by viewed as objects by other entities--and gives it an altogether false ontological sense. In and for themselves, living beings are subjects. Insofar as they are subjects, they are not objects. But they are subjects (entities acting upon their environment) for every moment of their living existence. Their potential objectness is merely the necessary implication of their actual subjectness.

Shane Mage

"To be Greek, one must have no clothes.

To be Medieval, one must have no body.

To be Modern, one must have no soul" (Oscar Wilde)



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