[lbo-talk] Re: the neo-neocons

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The neocons come in different varieties. Some she
originals were ex-leftists -- often, as has been noted
by Jeer and others, ex-Trots -- or ex-liberals, who
were won away from their original commitment by
anticommunism or Zionism or both. The were "neo" in
the senses that they were _new_ to the conservative
cause and different from the old National Review
crowd. They had _some_ interest in social policy --
Nathan Glazer and Carl Cohen, for example, were
fighting affirmative action wars from the 1970s on.
Wilson is one of these. A lot of them started out
fairly liberal in social policy, while going right on
foreign policy, but got pulled into the general right
wing perspective. You see this in the devolution of
both Commentary and TNR. AStraussianism is a verey
refined and curious corner of neoconhood, and the
people who inhabit may have been cold war Dems in
their errant youth, but were never leftists. Therea re
other tendencies. A college classmate of mine wrote a
book on them when they first became prominant, called
The Necocosn or something like. Chip could tell you
more. But foreign policy and antcommunsim was always
very central in the neocon faith. jks

--- Eubulides <paraconsistent at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck Grimes" <cgrimes at rawbw.com>
> 
> >
> > I am afraid I have almost the same aversion as
> you. Remember too, I've
> > only started reading Bloom and Strauss. There is a
> whole system of
> > ideas and people in a spectrum that I don't really
> understand.
> >
> > For example, Michael Pollak just wrote: ``Today's
> neocons (unlike
> > their forebears) don't seem to care about domestic
> policy at all.  And
> > to the extent they do, they don't seem to have any
> distinctive ideas
> > about it....''
> >
> 
> =================
> 
> What about James Q. Wilson? Wouldn't he qualify as a
> neocon in love with
> new methods/justifications of discipline/punish of
> contemporary domestic
> labor-leisure dynamics?
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
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