[lbo-talk] *Materialism and Empirio-Criticism*

Jon Johanning jjohanning at igc.org
Tue Sep 2 06:40:17 PDT 2003


On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 01:32 PM, andie nachgeborenen wrote:


> The hard case for realism even on the NOA is quantum
> mechanics. There the science itself sure as hells eems
> to tell that what there is, is in an important way
> observer-dependent.

I'm not quite sure of that. What happens to one photon, or whatever, depends on other photons it's interacting with (good Buddhist "co-dependent origination," as someone pointed out a while back), but does it depend on an *observer* -- some sort of (pardon the expression) consciousness observing it?

Anyway, I've never understood enough quantum physics to follow the argument past this point, so I'll have to leave it to my intellectual betters.

Jon Johanning // jjohanning at igc.org _________________________________ "The Sage is the same way --

He does not claim greatness over anything

He's not even aware of his own greatness Tell me, what could be greater than this?" -- Lao Tzu 34



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