Marx, Brenner, Technology (Was Re: [lbo-talk] preferences)

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Fri Sep 19 19:02:17 PDT 2003


At 8:43 PM -0500 9/19/03, joand315 wrote:
>>Workers' cooperatives don't take away incentives to save ones' own
>>lives and families from a civil war or to emigrate to richer
>>nations, though.
>
>Civil wars are more likely when much of the population is out of work.

We are thinking of a hypothetical but realistic transition from a capitalist society to a post-capitalist one (whether you call it socialist or anarchist or cooperativist or whatever). Most likely, any such transition will involve much economic upheavals: capital flight, emigration of skilled labor, economic embargoes and/or military interventions by other capitalist powers (that are more powerful than the nation in the throes of transition, unless the transition in question happens in the USA), indigenous power elite of the ancient regime employing saboteurs, soldiers of fortune, etc. to overthrow those who overthrew them, etc., all tending to a civil war. How do LBO-talk technophiles handle desertion (from the military or factories or whatever that the new socialist government needs) in this context? -- Yoshie

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