> Serious anarchists (as opposed to middle-class kids playing Sullen
Rebel)
> insist on rules and order -- mutually agreed upon and non-coercive rules
and
> order, of course, but not chaos and random violence.
>
> DP
>
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One person's chaos is another person's order. One person's freedom is another person's coercion.........
"We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name - liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names - liberty and tyranny." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume VII, "Address at Sanitary Fair, Baltimore, Maryland" (April 18, 1864), p. 301-302.
"The world has never had a good definition of the word liberty, and the American people, just now, are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty; but in using the same *word* we do not mean the same *thing*...The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as a *liberator*, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty....Plainly the sheep and the wolf are not agree upon the definition of liberty." [Abraham Lincoln, Address at the Sanitary Fair, Baltimore, MD, April 18, 1864] http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20030505/013259.html