<HTML> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood@panix.com> andie nachgeborenen wrote: >NB, have people noticed that this is a case for relative autonomy. >Despite the importance of oil in this equation, the war and the US >hegemonic drive is decidedly NOT reflecting the wishes or interests >of the big bourgeoisie. This is state-driven, primarily. Yup, and that state was appropriated by a particular sectoral, geographical, and ideological gang, more thuggish than the median. And right now, these guys are so awful that I'm happy to have BW making arguments like this. I know they're not good allies for the long-term class struggle, but anything that causes trouble for the PNAC posse is ok by me. Doug ******** CB: Some of us define fascism as the open terrorist rule of the most chauvinist, reactionary, militarist, thuggish, gangsterist SECTORS of finance capital ( finance capital is defined as a merger of finance and industrial capital), monopoly capital. This definition obviously does not view capital as a monolith. The united front against fascism in WWII included capitalists, like Roosevelt and other liberals, even conservatives like Churchill. </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>