Chris is REALLY smart, wrote a first-rate book on Marx and Hayek, used to participate on the old spoons Marxism list. He was a student of Ollman. I am not sure that he is an objectivist. He has written several book on Rand. I used to try to get him to explain what he saw in her, which he was never able to do to my satisfaction. Hayek of course, that's another story. Hayek's a major thinker. jks  Doug Henwood <dhenwood@panix.com> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Jim Farmelant wrote: >I would agree. The one truly smart Objectivist around is Chris >Sciabarara, who needless to say, would never write a piece of >crap, like that of David Holcberg. Then again, Chris is one of the >few Objectivists and libertarians who has more than a superficial >knowledge of Marxism and Hegelianism. It is curious that most of the >orthodox Objectivists have become staunch war mongers despite, >what should be obvious to them, that "war is the health of the state." I asked Holcberg about this. Here's the correspondence (in reverse chronological order). Doug ---- [second exchange] >Reply-To: <DAVIDH@AYNRAND.ORG> >From: "ARI Media" <DAVIDH@AYNRAND.ORG> >To: "Doug Henwood" <DHENWOOD@PANIX.COM> >Subject: RE: Peaceniks' Motivation >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:46:20 -0 800 > >What's your point? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Doug Henwood [mailto:dhenwood@panix.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:14 AM >To: davidh@aynrand.org >Subject: RE: Peaceniks' Motivation > > >ARI Media wrote: > >>You misunderstand Ayn Rand's philosophy. We are not against the state, >>we are for *individual rights*, which can only be secured by the state >>(including the military). > >This is a little different. > >Doug > >---- > >"The Roots of War," _The Objectivist_ 1966 >by Ayn Rand > >It is said that nuclear weapons have made wars too horrible to >contemplate. Yet every nation on earth feels, in helpless terror, >that such a war might come. [rest of essay posted by Yoshie followed] >Doug, > >You misunderstand Ayn Rand's philosophy. We are not agai nst the state, >we are for *individual rights*, which ca! n only be secured by the state >(including the military). >David >-----Original Message----- >From: Doug Henwood [mailto:dhenwood@panix.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:03 AM >To: David Holcberg >Subject: Re: Peaceniks' Motivation > > >ARI Media wrote: > >>Members of the so-called peace movement are not motivated by love of >>humanity but by hatred of America. They don't care about the Iraqi >>victims of Saddam Hussein's regime. If they had their way, Iraqis would >>suffer another three decades of oppression, fear and torture under >>Saddam. Nor do the peaceniks care about preventing the next September >>11. If they did, they would support--not denounce--our war on terror. > >Wow. You guys come up with some pretty crude stuff. Just wondering, >though - for a bunch of antistatists you seem to love the military. >Surely you're fa miliar with Randolph Bourne's famous essay, War is >the Health of the State ><HTTP: warhealthstate1918.html hist_texts struggle.ws>. Doesn't all >the secrecy and coercion bother you, or do "special bodies of armed >men" get a free pass from the Rand Institute? I'd be very grateful if >you could address this in a future piece.</BLOCKQUOTE> <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!? <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/platinum/evt=8162/*http://platinum.yahoo.com/splash.html">Yahoo! Platinum</a> - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/platinum/evt=8162/*http://platinum.yahoo.com/splash.html">live on your desktop</a>!