<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not sniffing out excuses for Dems, sorry if I implied that.   It strikes me that the Dems don't believe they can shape political communication at all.  Couldn't Daschle support the war without saying Bush has made no mistakes?  Do war supporters all demand total loyalty?  Couldn't Daschle simply elaborate on the existing critique of "inadequate Homeland security" and talk about "inadequate war preparations"?  Hell, in a few days he'll be able to quote  generals.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Randy  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com href="mailto:andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com">andie nachgeborenen</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lbo-talk@lists.panix.com href="mailto:lbo-talk@lists.panix.com">lbo-talk@lists.panix.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:33 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Daschle eats his words, and then some</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <P>I of all people make no excuses for Dems, but 70% of the public supports this way. Those are hard numbers for politician to disregard. jks <P> <B><I>RE <<A href="mailto:earnest@tallynet.com">earnest@tallynet.com</A>></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But why does he think that the only option is to cave?  This reminds me of Trotsky's comment regarding terrorists having no faith in the masses, it appears that apologizers haven't any as well.  Doesn't he feel that he can assert the importance of trying to "think clearly, and not blame always blame those who disagree with us," and how his opponents are "taking the value of loyalty and turning into a blank check on America's future," blah blah blah??   Or is it that potentially critical Dems feel so outgunned in the media that they don't think they can get their point across, they'll just get O'Reillyed?   My first reaction is to rail at their gutlessness, but is it based on a thoroughly pessimistic analysis of who controls political dialogue/symbolization processes?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Randy</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">CBS' NCAA March Madness, <A href="http://rd.yahoo.com/platinum/evt=8162/*http://platinum.yahoo.com/splash.html">live on your desktop</A>!</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>