<HTML> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood@panix.com></BLOCKQUOTE> Yup, though this dispute isn't just about intellectual war. Doug Michel Foucault: What is tiresome in ideological arguments is that one is <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">necessarily swept away by the "model of war." -clip Wouldn't it be much better instead to think that those with whom you disagree are perhaps mistaken; or perhaps that you haven't understood what they intended to say? ^^^^^^ CB: Well, Michael Kelly was _definitely_ ,not just "perhaps" ,mistaken. And I didn't misunderstand what he intended to say. And it is ironic, perhaps poetic justice, (but not using a "model of war" or metaphor of war), that he died in a real , criminal and savage war, that he promoted ideologically.</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>