<DIV>Owen's own life is quite telling....he joned to fight, then a zealot, and then soured soon thereafter when he saw the death and wrote (some of) the greatest anti-war verse (Dulce is my favorite poem ever).....look, you have a nation, on a very large scale, that still denies evolutionary theory in favor of biblical creationism...there faith in country is nothing next to their primitive faith in the potency of religion (paraphrasing a line from Judge Traynor "primitive faith in the potency of language;" my favorite legal line) andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> > but the solemn joy thousands of Americans seem to be taking in burying their 18-year-olds, their children home via body bag and they're GLAD! It makes them happy, it makes them proud, something I find so profoundly tragic and wasteful it brings tears to my eyes. It brings home the point, I suppose, that most Americans really do believe this is a good, just war, worth expending their kids for * * * , you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: <LANG l><F i>Dulce et decorum est<F r> <F I>Pro patria mori.<F r><LANG e> Wilfred Owen The Latin tag means: Sweet and proper it is to die for one's country. It _is_ strange, and yet I think it is the deaths that in fact vindicate the war, that show them that that it was worth it, make it impossible to recoinsider, you can't go back now; that would dishonor the dead. They cannot have died for nothing or worse for something wicked. jks</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!? <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The New Yahoo! Search</A> - Faster. Easier. Bingo.</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!? <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo.