<DIV>Right, but since we don't share their Beyond Good and Evil revalued values, we can abuse them to our fellow last men who share our slave morality. (For them as is unfamiliar with this vocabulary, it is Nietzsche-speak.) This will only make them smile, since they don't care for our curses any more than for our praises, but we don't care either what they think, so long as we can discredit them amongst their would-be followers amongst us, eh? jks Jim Farmelant <farmelantj@juno.com> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> On Sun, 4 May 2003 05:05:54 -0700 (PDT) andie nachgeborenen <ANDIE_NACHGEBORENEN@YAHOO.COM>writes: > No, the point is not that what he does is immoral, In facr, he's > probably got an illness, comulsive gambling. We ingulge in glee > because he's a hypocrite, Mr. high-and-mighty precahing to all of us > about self restraint when -- lo! he can't. And his litany of > erxcuses (it didn't hurt anyone, he can afford it, it's no one > else;s business) -- while all true, is just the sort of thing he and > his followers reject in others. Elmer Gantry, recall, like to drink > and screw, two perfectly delightful activities, especially the > latter -- it wasn't his doing them but his denouncing them as > immoral while doing them that made him a hypocrite. jks Of course that's hardly unique to Bennett, among the Straussians. After all, Saul Bellow in his novel *Ravelstein* which was a very thinly veiled account of Allan Bloom, Bellow presents his old friend as a very active sodomite. However, from their own standpoint, I don't think they would regard this as hypocrisy though because I think they regard conventional morality as rules meant for non-philosophers. Philosophers, on the other hand, live by their own rules. In this respect, as in others, they are very Nietzschean. Jim F. > > Michael Pollak <MPOLLAK@PANIX.COM>wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Jim Farmelant wrote: > > > Bennett says that he sees no moral issues with his gambling. > > I'm not sure I do either. He says it's never been secret and he's > declared all his winnings and losings to the IRS. He was quoted in > 1995 > in the Las Vegas Review-Journal of all places saying, "I've played > poker > all my life and I shouldn't be on my high horse about it." That > seems > pretty straightforward to me. > > Just because you're a moralist doesn't mean you think everything is > immoral. Bennett says he's never considered drinking, smoking or > gambling > to be sins in themselves. I agree with him, and so presumably does > everyone on this list. So where's the crime? High stakes poker is > legal > in modern casino America. > > Unless there turns out to be tax fraud or some hidden family > suffering > here, the hypocrisy seems to me to be entirely on our side. It's > like > we're more Catholic than the Pope. > > Michael > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!? <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo.