<DIV>He didn't make the stuff for profit, doesn't sell it on a market, the "price" is determined by his extrinsic needs, and I'd have given him the $ anyway. Does that sound like commerce to you? jks Bill Bartlett <billbartlett@enterprize.net.au> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">In this instance, perhaps commerce is in the eye of the beholder? At 8:22 AM -0700 9/6/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote: >I actually have a friend, my kids' godfather, a very fine graphic artist, many of whose original works I have in my home, who is to all appearances totally disconnected from commerce. He lives on SSI disability, before that, was an office mgr for a commie bookstore in Detroit and before that for the IWW. I have "paid" him for most of the things I have of his, but mainly to spare him embarassment at giving him gifts of money that he has needed for particular things, chiefly medicare care. What I have paid him must be a small fraction of the value of the work rated objectively, but he wouldn't take more than he needed at a time. jks ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!? Free <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/*http://calendar.yahoo.com">online calendar</a> with sync to Outlook(TM).