<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Justin wrote:</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>> Learn to read, Bill, I didn't say he did these awful things because he's different. I said he's </DIV> <DIV>> different because he did these awful things. I am perfectly aware that it's not that hard to get </DIV> <DIV>> people who might have been decent to do terrible things, that they do not do these things </DIV> <DIV>> because  they are a different or lesser order of being. But having done them, which you or I </DIV> <DIV>> might have done, but didn't do, he's different and worse, indeed, worthless, because he did </DIV> <DIV>> them. It was the doing of them that makes him worse and worthy of disgrace and punishment, > and eligible for death. </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've never understood this line of reasoning, although it's probably required to make sense of retributivism.  How is it that moral luck can determine deserts?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- Luke</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>